Industrial-lyrics.com ([info]industrialyrics) wrote,
@ 2006-10-17 16:11:00
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Current location:Office (closet)
Current mood: aggravated
Current music:Cheesey 80's music

Important info related to the future of Industrial-lyrics
If you missed my bulletin on Myspace earlier, I recently found out that Industrial-lyrics.com has been the target of content stealing web bots. (And the Industrial-lyrics.com forum has been under attack by porn and pharmacy bots).

Thank you to Brandi Winks for informing me of www.lyricsmagnet.com. It is the sister site for www.lyricsandsongs.com, which I found to have many songs that I had to get special permission to post, I had to listen to the songs over and over to transcribe, or I had to track down the band and beg for lyrics.

I have done some digging today and have found out some info on those two sites.

Both sites share the same database. They share the same nameserver. Thanks to lyricsmagnet posting when a song is added, I was able to go back and find when they first raped Industrial-lyrics.com - Jan. 15, 2006. I also discovered that they appear to be in San Rafael, CA. I also am fairly sure of what their ISP is, as I have been able to track the ip's that have been used to index Industrial-lyrics.com.

Now I need some feedback. There are a number of routes I can go to help protect the content of the site. I can use Javascript (something I have not wanted to do in case people's browsers didn't support it). I can convert all the songs to image files (meaning you wouldn't be able able to copy and paste [note: I hate this option]). I can use Flash (see comments for Javascript). Or I can ban an entire ISP (not too keen on this). I am open to any other suggestions.

I know that it seems like I'm getting all bent out of shape over nothing, but try to see things from my view:


  • I go through and fix up every song before I put up. I average about 4 minutes of reading and editing per song. (I know this from looking at the difference between the modified times on each text file).

  • 4(min) x 9,161(songs) ÷ 60(min) = ~611 hours of just editing songs

  • 611 hours ÷ 2 1/2 years of being around = ~244 hours a year, which if you do the math again, you'll see it works out to like an hour every other day

  • All that is just in editing time, that doesn't count any coding, promotion, or any other features of the site

  • As my FAQ clearly states: "I don't make any money from this site. It is purely fan based. All costs (hosting, promotion, ect) come out of my own pocket." Which basically means that the only thing I get for my time is a sense of accomplishment.


So in conclusion, you can see that having a robot come in and take what I've spent mass amounts of time on can be pretty upseting.

If you have any insight or suggestions, please contact me (e-mail, Myspace, Livejournal, Industrial-lyrics.com Forums).

<><><>Poet<><><>
poet@industrial-lyrics.com
www.industrial-lyrics.com



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[info]amydissolution
2006-10-17 11:45 pm UTC (link)
Is there anything that can be done regarding reporting the sites in question to their ISP? I realise it may be a bit iffy as it's technically not a copyright issue - although if you've had to get permission from some of the bands to post their lyrics, that's a matter for debate really. Hmm.

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[info]panzertron
2006-10-18 01:18 am UTC (link)
Um, sorry, I don't really have any suggestions.

But if you think about it, the fact that robots busting in and stealing peoples' stuff is becoming a problem now is kind of awesome. Or not.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-20 09:42 pm UTC (link)
learn to live with it, you can't stop someone from stealing something they can read, get over it.

you can make it a little more difficult for them, but not impossible.

my advice, relax, let people get the lyrics and use them as they want, even if it is for money.

of course, it's just an advice, you can take it or leave it :)

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[info]kasra_c
2006-10-24 06:56 pm UTC (link)
How big is the ISP? How likely is it that folks using from that ISP will be accessing your site? I think banning the ISP is the simplest solution. Unless you're talking about something huge like AOL, Earthlink, or Comcast (or other popular broadband/DSL providers), I don't think banning the ISP should be an issue.

Good luck in whatever choice you make!

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